From: john1@interport.net (Fred Cherry)
Subject: Re: Counter-attack to lies by religous extremists
Date: 23 Jul 1995 00:00:00 GMT
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In Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950722183614.26919A-100000@triton.unm.edu> Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality Subject: Re: Counter-attack to lies by religous extremists Date: Sat, 22 Jul 1995 18:55:17 -0600


Ivy Smith <ca11@unm.edu> wrote:

> Are you referring to the genetic condition of gluten (a complex
> protein found in breads and such) intolerance, which is usually called
> Celiac Disease or Celiac Condition? If so, how can this have any
> effect on your relationship with women? I realize that there are
> many associated conditions, from dermatitis to severe mental health
> disorders, but these can be eradicated by removing gluten from the
> diet. I wasn't aware that gluten itself was a key factor in
> establishing or maintaining relationships with women OR men.

Yes, I am referring to celiac disease. A person with celiac disease has to avoid more than bread. A person with celiac disease has to avoid all foods containing any wheat, rye, oats, or barley. You are correct when you say that this condition is treated primarily by removing these food products from one's diet. However, this was not known prior to 1951. I didn't find out about this until 1958, when I was first diagnosed with celiac disease. I was always extremely underweight. When I was a child, my mother was advised to force me to eat bread. That's the way children were raised in those days. This was the worst thing that could have been done to me. It severely damaged the lining of my small intestine.

I remember one time at the age of 38 I weighed 98 pounds on my physician's beam balance scale. I am five feet, ten inches tall. That was slightly under my "normal" weight for that period of my life.

It's not just a matter of being underweight. There are all sorts of other problems. I have never met anyone who is as sensitive to cold weather as myself. I dress as warmly as possible, and yet I still cannot leave my room when the weather gets too cold. I have been retired on a disability pension for over thirty years. When I was employed, I had to move within half a mile of my place of employment. I could never have endured a daily commute to work of over ten minutes. I had a job with the City of New York when the number of hours in a workday were 7 hours in the winter and six hours in the summer. Nevertheless, I was out ill so often that i was forced to retire after ten years. Either that or get fired for being absent from work too much.

With all of these limitations, I am unable to go out and meet people. The last time I went to a party was 1977. It was like this. I was in the habit of eating at a certain restaurant where there were a couple of young aspiring actresses working temporarily as waitresses. They asked me to come to a Halloween costume party. They specifically asked me to come as a "flasher." So, to accommodate them, I went to a porno store and bought an artificial device. I decorated it with a red pen, to simulate arteries, and a blue pen, to simulate veins. I took an old pair of pants and cut off the legs. When I got to the home of the party giver, I went into the bathroom and put on the costume. I pinned the pants legs to my long underwear. I already had a trenchcoat, which made me look like a "natural" for the part. I couldn't very well go to the party in that costume. What if something had happened and I wound up in some hospital or something? Anyway, I was the first to arrive, and after I changed into the costume, I greeted all the female guests by opening my trenchcoat, just the way a real "flasher" would. Since the device I was using was ten inches long, some of the women guests were impressed. In fact some of them went so far as to reach out and grab it. When they discovered it was artificial, they seemed disappointed.

Anyway, after two hours at this party, I was totally exhausted. I had to leave. I took a taxi home. The next day at the restaurant those waitresses told me that the party lasted until three o'clock in the morning.

You see what I mean? But even before that I had tried to establish a relationship with a woman from the age of twenty to the age of thirty. When I became thirty, I realized that was either going to have sex with prostitutes, or die a virgin. So, that has been my sexual orientation ever since. In order to avoid tiring myself, I have call girls come to my home.

> > I suppose you [Meir Lehrer] would call me a "choice extremist." Well,
> > that doesn't bother me in the slightest. I'm not asking for anyone's
> > approbation. All I ask is that I be left alone to seek out an adult
> > partner to engage in sexual activity under mutually agreeable terms.
> > If you think my lifestyle is immoral, you're entitled to think that.
> > Just don't use your influence to get the government to criminalize my
> > lifestyle, the way homosexuals in the United States have done to me.

> Well, if homosexuals had any influence in the government *at all* when
> prostitution was 'criminalized,' it must have occured within the last 25
> or 30 years at the outside. I don't remember this historic occasion, but
> then, I'm 21--I guess I missed it. Please provide the specific date this
> law or suite of laws went on the books, and which homosexuals were in
> the legislature (either state or national), and all that.

The problem is that homosexuals in the government are in the closet, especially thirty years ago. It is now generally agreed that J. Edgar Hoover was homosexual, but few people knew this at that time. I remember reading this in The Homosexual Handbook, published in 1957. Anyway, Hoover wrote a law review article in which he expressed very strong sentiments against prostitution. Don't forget that Hoover is the same man who was bugging Dr. Martin Luther King's bed. Hoover found out that Dr. Martin Luther King was getting a little extra on the side, and took great delight in spreading this information around.

By the way, this is not to be construed as an attack on Dr. Martin Luther King. Most prominent men get a little extra on the side. Look at all the extra action that President Kennedy was getting. Franklin Delano Roosevelt had a mistress. President Harding used to do his thing with his mistress, Nan Britten, in a White House closet. And don't forget that Nelson Rockefeller died with his boot on.

Here is another example for you. Edward I. Koch, former Mayor of New York went all-out against women prostitutes and their clients. When I sent out monster postcards en masse denouncing him as a homosexual, I was called a bigot. In fact when I revealed the fact that I had sent out these monster postcards recently, Rod Swift posted a veiled death threat against me. But when Larry Kramer, the well-known homosexual activist calls Ed Koch a homosexual, no one, except Koch, seems to object. Koch still insists that he is not a homosexual.

All right. Now I will tell you the in-the-closet homosexual who is responsible for criminalizing prostitution. His name is Charles H. Bowman. He is a Professor of Law at the University of Illinois and Chairman of the Drafting Subcommittee for the Illinois Criminal Code of 1960. Now, if that criminal code had merely criminalized prostitution, without mentioning homosexuality, I would not be able to draw any inferences. Similarly, if that criminal code had merely decriminalized homosexuality, without mentioning prostitution, I would not have been able to draw any inferences. But when a criminal code totally decriminalizes homosexuality and at the same time criminalizes prostitution, where prostitution had not been previously criminalized, I say it is obvious that something very QUEER is going on.

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